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The wisdom pursues me, but I am faster

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The phrase that comes to condense all the meaning is as follows: The blogosphere is a conversation. Personally, after so long here, if it is hardly anything, I can not agree more and I am trying to pursue this conversation with varying success, with more or less intensity, obviously, depending on timing and circumstances.

Unfortunately, it often happens that you are human, make mistakes, forgetfulness and suffering are not aware or if you have checked all sources, not even all points of view that one can not stop to read carefully all the posts that are published or all items, or follow all the links, let all the comments. Yes, it is true that one tries to keep up, but do not have time to read everything, sometimes even to post, much less comment, one can move sideways for a story that looks interesting, but over time to discover that this is very good. Ultimately, as the university graffiti, that wisdom seems to haunt me, but unfortunately for me, I'm faster.

To understand what I get, we must begin by the quintessence of the blogosphere: the reference and debate. While the blogosphere is evolving and we would need an entire article to try to tease apart the forms and ways in which it is published, we will stay with these two types of texts cited, since they are the essential and basically many bloggers go through them .

Some say that blogs were born essentially as references to other things, as if it were a guide for discovery, as does the author of the blog that maintains it. An example of this type of blogs is strict Wind Tower. But many blogs do not fall into this extreme but they do seem to believe that the texts are simple links can be very useful, hence born the mini-posts or mini-links. But of course the performance of mini-links or maintaining a log reference librarian depends largely on the author.

In any case, some specific events it can generate a lot of cross references. In the case of biblioblogosfera we post What the Internet users search the Web See also published. Basically, it happened that the Yahoo search engine decided to create on its front page a section called What the Internet users search the Web and See also proved that a Biblioblog, appeared as the first involving erotic blogs, which led to an exponential increase as collaterals of number of visits. This error of Yahoo was collected and referenced by other Biblioblogs as Deakialli Documentary or Catorze.Blog.

Curiosity became older and had no greater impact, however the stories not only represent an interesting activity in the blogosphere, we can also find us with some more informed discussions with the above. For example, which came after Andrea from See also published the Necessity of Chaos before I felt the need not to answer and Andrea at the blog, but just answer through this. Thus was born a conversation that jumped from one site to another, but was developed in two different blogs had not lost one iota of interest.

As you can see, the interest on a topic, a particular impact on him, causing the fact can be retracted in various blogs, which is discussed from various points of view and if it needs to be dissected to some extent. Álvaro may very While analysis on this point that I will not delve further. However, sometimes producing what I like to call Gollum syndrome (Please no one take offense), the proprietary information that is published on a blog. This can be done in a personal way or somehow through delegation, and have two phrases that generally You already said / she said and not me / I bind, ie My tesssoro. Today, I have two examples I have suffered and as such I referenced.

1. Catalan Librarians of the '20s.

In August this month, I discovered a story that picked up the regional television of Catalonia (TV3) related to the education of librarians in the 20s. The news was about the discovery of a roll film in which there had been some of the classes they received. As I said then, look for the biblioblogosfera had said something about it, fearing the worst, I found nothing, so I started to translate the note from the TV adding the link to the video.

Soon, someone said that Alice had got this news, which surprised me since she had searched and found nothing. The question is: What need had I to look for anything to run the story on this blog?

2. Bush radio-related joke.

From the news we turn to the story, curiously from one medium to another and from one blog to another. I hear on the radio a joke about Bush related to libraries and pick it up, then someone reminds me that he had already published as l or had heard on television two days earlier.

These two events are minor and unimportant, I suppose there's probably somewhere where I also made the Gollum, however it appears that in the biblioblogosfera tried to cut the wings when someone tries a new approach to something or refresh the memory. They can generate comments like: You already told Fulanito in September 2003. What is the problem? Why I can not tell my way today? Where was I in September 2003? A little quiet please.

Some might consider, given the seen, I've become somewhat paranoid, I exaggerate, but do not know yet the experience of other blogs about the reminder that something has been said before, I do believe that there have been cases more than bind this blog. An example of this, but is really tangential, is what occurred in the group Biblogsfera and completely serves to exemplify what we are discussing here today.

What we must keep in mind is that not all bloggers read the same blogs, not all read everything that is published, not all read what was published, not all readers know what blogs are or how they work, and so on. The impact of news and visibility is measured by how much the media referenced in the case of the blogosphere happens the same, albeit to be the first to break news is cause for pride, not kill the oddly appropriate messenger of information.

"Right to date? Of course, I welcome and if I exercise I did is that I missed, I have admitted time and again and am the first to admit my mistakes and slips (From sages say). We're not talking about plagiarism, but the ways you can address an issue or to relist it. I only believe in a thing which is summarized in one sentence: Publish Damned (Bypass, on the other hand, one of Franz Kafka: citad damned). Simply put, the more you post on a story greater impact and visibility. Everything else is kicking fools that do not lead anywhere and I'm going to stop being afraid. Simply, if it happened to me is that I did not realize or did not know or was unknown, so sorry but I have no regrets.



Currently there are "8 comments" in this text:

  1. Treebeard says:

    Clue Train:

    Point 1: Markets are conversations.

    ;)

  2. Yusef said:

    Hello Mark, interesting post, I wanted a few things:

    1. When you refer to post "What the Internet users search the Net," talk to "This error of Yahoo ..." why would qualify as a mistake? Yahoo decided to include these searches on your browser to these issues, and the first post that appeared (from véaseademás) just picked up a list of erotic blogs, so that users find what they sought.
    2. I agree about the "Gollum Syndrome. As you say repeat issues is not a sin. But perhaps we should approach this phenomenon further. That is, not just "makes sense to require the right to quote in the context blogosphere?" [1], but also "The repetition of themes influencing the interest that might raise a post?" (And therefore in the ' quality 'of it). I think the answer is simple: if you repeat topics on blogs that your audience also reads, has a negative influence on the interest which may cause the post, and that's the only reason a blogger should try not to repeat issues already treaties.

    [1] It is clear that in other contexts, such as scientific publications, no sense talking gollum syndrome.

  3. Mark Ros says:

    Thanks Yusef

    1. Well, the truth is that when you published the post I checked the list of results and yes, the first aparecíais. I imagine that Yahoo offered at the time your entrance Blogs Erotic relevant results. Now you do not, however, it is true that the result is relevant. But you can not deny that surprised you in some way:

    "While we do not appear among search results for" library blogs ", it appears as the first result for" erotic blogs. " Facts of Life. "

    And by extension the rest of the biblioblogosfera who collected so surprising result.

    2. What to write and what not, I think a shallow nonsense. The more sources better, that within this small section of the blogosphere we go putting barriers seems stupid and not logical. It is likely that if someone writes today about the library of Alexandria, why not? and is just one example, and tomorrow I want to write another text on the same subject, why should I not? If a reader of blogs say, well this because I know and do not want to read it, then do not be an option. But I think it's not about to go throwing stones at us.

    Moreover, it often happens that blogs also disappear, even they should not do so if there is to tell the story twice, why should we stop?

  4. Vanesa says:

    Like every blogger has the right to talk about q like, every commentator has a right to link these issues with what you have read or heard before.

    The links is the mother of the lamb on the Internet. One speaks of a subject and Linkea. A step beyond the conversations or threads, directories, abstracts, clusters and strands of the same issues in diferenetes websites. Pos follow in this line, not mm gollum looks bad attitude at all. Actually, for me it is almost bound to be left for another vision, any link above, a correction on the subject. Expands on the information thereon and gains value. Look back and have the information gathered is a value.

    Another thing is the ego of the blogger. M no longer I put there, should not seek a name that too? Maybe not be good to know that the item had already written.

    Q I do not think the intention of the other q cometnarista is stating a fact

    As always, it's just an opinion, a greeting ;)

  5. Mark Ros says:

    Yep, but as always there are ways and ways of saying it, some more suitable than others. To add a link as a comment, I feel good and rich, like every comment of course, what matters here are the forms.

    If you talk about egos should consider both the ego of the writer as that of commenting and generally, is the commentator who comes out.

    I insist that I find rewarding generated many viewpoints, which can be collected after the pages are not linked in the comments no problem.

    The similarities do exist and are positive and more when biblioblogosfera grows. For example, today reflects a story in two different blogs: "The librarian millionaire of New Orleans"

    1. File, Web, Blog and other documents in the pile
    2. Infoxication

    And I think it's great that they both have been collected, one collects the entire story and the other not yet left their personal imprint in both cases. We must not control us, we must let go.

    Publish ... Set free your minds, do not coartéis, benchmark albeit old, never mind, any input is important.

  6. Ferran said:

    It is here alluded to the phone? : P

    I did not think that my observations lead to a post (and do not think this syndrome is Gollum, because it was I who said "this has already been told so and so" in the case of librarians). Nor do I believe that we should avoid repeating information: myself when I talk about a book I found comments like "we talked about this book on this or that." If only we could talk about an issue once, I think the blogosphere would go down the drain! In my case, just surprised me because I had read the note from Javier Leiva (and if you bother watching, I apologize).

    I would add that I agree with Vanessa and, in part, with the comment Yussef on repeated themes, although I should not talk about issues already discussed, because the same topic may be discussed from very different points of view and generate discussion and exchange of ideas.

  7. Mark Ros says:

    Saludos Ferran

    Anyway, I was looking for another comment that was much more bloody. In fact, the line that says "You already told Fulanito in September 2003 is a real comment that was published in this blog, I looked for the comment and did not find, however, as did remember yours temporal proximity, just as I have collected.

    Do not worry that your comment was not precisely that resulted in this post, the was the comment desancadenante Biblogsfera also the pick. I guess "That told me" behavior is very blogosphere, so we must not give a lot of laps.

    On the thematic scope, I think we should consider as an entity biblioblogosfera closed tight and immovable. That is, maybe tomorrow I will break the same database of this blog or simply disappear over time. Nothing remains, everything flows and retrieve items not hurt anyone.

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